What makes a great fit-out partner and why does it matter long after the handover? In Episode 3 of the Penguin Podcast, Mike sits down with David Hill-Souch, Director of Inspiration at RAW Fit Out, to talk about the real ingredients behind high-performance spaces. From standout case studies to smart handovers and why RAW sees sustainability and aftercare as non-negotiables, this episode goes behind the curtain of commercial fit out, client relationships, and the future of smarter buildings. If you’re in FM, construction, commercial property or interiors, this one’s a must-listen.